I recently Inquired with McDonalds if they use GMO foods, corn syrip, aspartame and msg and had all posts deleted and blocked from the page, I deceided to send them a complaint about this to which they attempted their regular appeazing methods and avoided answering questions but rather told me facts about how they use the finest ingredients etc etc etc and I served them with a 10 day legal notice before I took action against them and this is how it went down
All messages are directly cut and paste versions of the orriginal emails
Hi – given you haven’t supplied your name on Facebook or in your complaint I can’t respond to you personally. I note in your complaint that you are upset that your comments were deleted from our Facebook page. I also note that you have stated we have “10 days to fix this situation before I make you legally liable..”. Can you confirm what you actually want us to fix, and what we are legally liable for? Before we have this information there is not a great deal we can actually do.
Regarding Facebook and our Facebook page in particular, please note the following:
– Facebook has confirmed we are within our rights to manage our page as we see fit
– As stated – your initial posts were deleted as they contained links
– We then gave you the opportunity to contact us directly, which you have now done
– However, on Facebook you had stated that you did not want to talk to us, but continued to post on our page
– At this stage you had breached our term: “Use the page to promote personal causes, charities or business activities”. We reserve the right to delete posts and in this case are comfortable we gave you ample opportunity to contact us directly
Regarding the general nature of your statements, we respect your right to feel this way towards McDonald’s. McDonald’s is enjoyed by the majority of New Zealanders, who appreciate the quality of our food, the service, and value. We are also aware that we have detractors, and we listen to their comments, and act as constructively as we can.
Simon Kenny |National Communications Manager
McDonald’s Restaurants (NZ) Ltd
email: email@example.com | ph: 09 539 4380 | mob: 027 482 7692 I Twitter: @MaccasNZ
User name Annon Amis
I questioned your food really being food, why it doesn’t decompose like food does, questioned your lettuce and tomatoes for GMO ingredients and also said its concerning that you advertise yourselves as a family restaurant when your food causes cancer, heart disease, kidney failure and you promote all kinds of corruption and it really makes me sick
You ask what kind of legal action I am going to take, let me just say this when you look at your track record and the wrong doings and un-necessary suffering, pain and death, slave wages for your employees and some rich fat cat sadist sitting back watching the worlds cancer spread delightfully I am offering the same towards this corporation and many others, I am vigilant and I have time and knowledge, no matter how much legal fee’s you pay or which lawyers you hire you will be hard pressed to contest what I have
Hi – clearly you have you opinions on McDonald’s and as with any member of the public we respect that.
Regarding some of your statements below, I can confirm that over 95% of the ingredients we use in our menu are sourced from local NZ suppliers. It’s largely the same type of thing you would buy from your supermarket or local market. We have incredibly high standards for our food, including its quality and freshness. We also operate ethically and in a sustainable manner. Regarding your comments of food decomposing, there are some very simple scientific reasons relating to fat, moisture and dryness (see link below).
We are one of New Zealand’s largest employers of youth, and our training programme is recognised for its ability to help people learn and progress, moving off minimum wage quickly. Last year we signed a new agreement with the UNITE union. 80% of McDonald’s restaurants are franchised in New Zealand, and the owner/operators make a huge economic and social contribution to their local communities.
From your comments I assume you will continue to hold your views towards McDonald’s in New Zealand, but we will continue to provide the majority of New Zealanders with the products, experience and service they appreciate.
Granted you do use local produce and I do respect that, and don’t worry I am doing the same with all other companies that support this kind of thing (supermarkets and other food outlets) who support this toxic food.
You see here’s the thing even though it may be local and you can buy the same thing at a local food store does not mean it is not GE or riddled with other toxins through processing and keeping bugs away etc.
All the big name brands grow GMO food stuffs mostly Monsanto from their local branch under the guise Seminis seeds, all of this probably means little to you because you do not fully understand the implications of what eating this kind of thing actually does to you.
GMO corn in recent studies has found that it causes sterility after long exposure
Aspartame and Monosodiumglutimate are from a family of chemicals called excitotoxins YES TOXINS they excite your brain and fry your neurons.
Did you also know that there are thousands of ingredients that can be added to food without going on the label, lots of which are toxic, addictive and also make you feel more hungry
And sure you have your propaganda website explaining why fat preserves and dryness prevents mould blah blah blah I guarantee you this, if I get a homemade burger made from real food even if I dry it to the same as yours etc IT WILL STILL ROT if it doesn’t rot its not living food its dead and stagnant it holds no nutrition even bacteria will not feed off this, I know of a dog whom ate a 2 year old burger of yours and was fine, I have tried to see if anyone is daring enough to try eating it but I won’t even eat a fresh one.
Also what about all the deforestation that has happened under the name of McDonald’s, what about all the pollution, all the unnecessary packaging, I could go on all day
Also granted you do donate ever so small percentages of the corporate money to places, you itch my back I’ll itch yours mentality I am not blind and I see right thought your BS.
As a friend of mine said Ronald McDonald house is like cigarette companies sponsoring lung cancer
Of course I have a grudge against the McDonalds and everything it is and everything it stands for
I can’t believe they hired psychologists to study the brain to choose as to how to best draw people in and using the lame little kids play ground and a creepy clown to attract the children its like crack cocaine to them and it is a disease and it is taking over can you not see this.
Do you eat McDonalds regularly ?? I am getting personal here and I hope I don’t offend
Have you had a blood pressure test done recently ?
how are you sleeping at night ?
do you have trouble with mental health depression etc ??
(sorry to be so personal) are you bathroom deposits regular ?
Have you checked you white blood cell’s ??
how are your protein levels like? And general nutrient levels of your system ?
I suggest you get these things checked out if not for yourself then your family.
Maybe even get them checked then try eating wholefoods, living foods, fresh organic foods
REAL FOODS even for a month and get re-checked I am fascinated to see what a difference it makes to you, it really made a huge change to my life when I stopped eating all that stuff
There is loads and loads of data and study verified and double checked and peer reviewed out there proving both that McDonalds food is not food and is toxic and that whole foods, fresh, local, organic, GMO free foods do not and in fact reverse disease, cure disease and increase your energy, livelihood and you will live far longer and be much happier and healthier I am talking to you as a living human being, the unique snowflake and free spirit you are but unfortunately you are the person that has had to deal with facing some horrific facts about the world we really live in, the world that has been pulled over our eyes makes it hard to see and almost diss-believable but look for yourself
Seeing as how I had not recieved a reply since yesterday and its already afternoon I figured it was time to let our friend Simon know he can’t sleep on the job because I am not going away =p
Message as follows
Are you not speaking with me anymore Simon ??
I thought our conversasions where about to get very interesting indeed and it sadens me that you are not willing to contine to talk with me any longer, may I ask why you have not replyed ?? is it your day off today ???
I do appreciate your replies I just can’t see why you wouldn’t man up on the facebook page and have a conversation just block this shows your total control of information and silencing truth from your sheeple that are blinded by the multi million dollar advertizing, manipulation and propaganda I suppose I could congradulate you there at McDonald’s for being some of the best mind control artists out there but when you use it for profit causing loss of life of our families from easily preventable diseases no credit will ever be given in fact the total opposite.
I would like to remind you that on Friday week (not tomorrow but next Friday) is the end of your ten days notice I have already served you with and you have still not done anything to fix this situation you should let this conversation be taking place on your page where it was started, why can we not have transperancy here ?? why do you not want people knowing the truth ?? why are you not even willing to look at the truth yourself ???? this is truly concerning, I realize it is your job and you would get in trouble for saying anything as has happened to many employees of your corrupt institutionalized slave houses and mind altering food that sterilizes and destroys
You had better wake up and realize that there are people guiding your life and you dont even know it
Have a lovely afternoon Simon
Peace, love and light
Hi – I’m struggling with someone talking to me about transparency when they won’t disclose their name. You still haven’t stated what you actually want us to do by a week Friday?
Regarding the McDonald’s Facebook page, it is just that. You are free to set up your own Facebook page, blog, website and set out your views on the world, McDonald’s and anything else for that matter. As stated in my first email, we reserve the right to run our own Facebook page as we see fit. You will see that we do not delete/block content if it is negative towards McDonald’s, but on the very rare occasion, we can elect to do this.
Hi again Simon,
Thanks for getting back to me so promptly =]
I may not use my real name but I allow anyone to have their views heard and talked about publicly out in the open I don’t remove things by people who question anything, its questioning that makes us grow and develop into our full potential.
my name is also kept out of things because I am taking on a viewpoint and large enemies like yourself (not you personally but the corporation) and I know what happens to people who get too vocal
and yes we can all start a facebook page but the difference is if someone challenges me on something I will talk to them there in the open about things human to human I would never delete or block someone for sharing some truth in this diseased world
What I want by a week Friday is to no longer be blocked from your page and not have this happen again merely for questioning your products is that not what a person allowed to do ? show concern for my fellow man here on this earth by questioning their staple diet foods and the toxic things that are promoted to us daily ? is that not what any good company want ? so they can better themselves and their relationships with customers and non customers alike ??
I know you try and appease the masses with your speals about buying only the finest GMO food stuffs fresh and local and that you fund events like coca cola and all the other disease riddled toxic food/drink companies etc but that is just a front an image thing looking good for those photo opportunity moments and good PR work but never fixing the fact that its killing us and the world around us
I should be able to see the ingredients of the buns you use, the chemicals added to the burgers, what fillers you use, how many forms of MSG you add in and what other neuro toxins are added in the processing of the food even the 3,000+ that the FDA approved that didn’t have to be listed which are the most toxic, addictive and destructive
Either you prove to me in “FULL“ your ingredients lists (down to the finest detail, everything used in processing and don’t worry it’s not like I am stealing your recipe I could cook a way better burger than you blindfolded in a kitchen I’d never been in before) and also totally disclosure of the processes used in making your food, prove that no animal has been tortured to make your food, Prove that the chickens you use are not constantly medicated with aluminium and antibiotics (causing cancer and the overuse of antibiotics is well known) prove your cattle have not been raised in inhumane conditions and what they have been fed on how much of it is GMO? Prove your coffee is fair trade and not just bought from a company that uses that phrase in their slogan, show how you make your Mcnuggets I am sure you would love to see that one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T67DvoH2H3E&feature=related ) prove that you have not used manipulation methods to get people into your shops, you have not caused vast deforestation, you recycle I could keep on going because you have committed so many acts of such monstrous proportions it is hard to list everything on demand like this and I know I have missed plenty out but I am sure you can work out the extra wrong doings and have a go at some whitewashing stint and a propaganda spin to make McDonalds seem like lovely caring people but I am no fool. If you can prove that to me 100% beyond doubt then in writing, photo, video and personal tour expenses paid etc then I will leave this alone and maybe even have the odd salad burger now and again (but I highly doubt it) otherwise I am sorry but this information will be heard even if I have to stand across the road from your stores (public property) with a bull horn and blast this message out (exercising my right to free speech, bill of rights act) I will do what it takes for this to be heard and I will not break any laws I know what I can and can’t do I am no fool so it is up to you and your corporate buddies higher up than yourself to make the call on how you want things to go ? do you want to prove to me that McDonald’s has never done anything wrong and never caused any harm before the ten days is up, or do you want a civil debate publicly on your facebook or you want me and my bull horn harassing every McDonald’s store up and down the island ???
It’s up to you and your corporate buddies now Simon
Have a most pleasant and lovely afternoon my brother =]
Hi – I think you are confusing some things you have read regarding McDonald’s in the past or in other countries, with what happens in New Zealand. I am talking with you on behalf of McDonald’s in New Zealand. For example, the link to the ‘pink slime’ is not something ever used in New Zealand. Your comments regarding burgers and fillers also does not relate to New Zealand. In fact, just last week I was at our burger patty plant in Waitara with a TV crew filming for “What’s really in our food”. Clearly you won’t believe it when I tell you that a McDonald’s burger patty is made from 100% NZ quality beef, but perhaps when the show is aired you will see I might not be lying to you.
Regarding Facebook, we reserve the right to block users if they break our terms, and in this case we believe you are promoting a personal cause. As you note, you are within your rights to protest publicly, and from time to time people do choose to protest McDonald’s in New Zealand.
I appreciate that the pink slime is not used here but it is the same franchise is it not?
And you say you use 100% Beef is this the off cuts and scraps you often find in dog food??
Do those cows live a happy and healthy life? Or are they cramped into small fields and regularly intimidated by a dog, what are these cows fed on ?
so there is no other ingredient in the burger other than off cuts of beef ? nothing else no binding agents or any other things added ??
Where do your buns come from? What else is in them besides flour, water, yeast and salt (as these are the only things so called fresh bread needs)
Am I really supposed to believe that?
And what about the propaganda and manipulation used in advertising all those psychologists hired to find what works best to manipulate people to come to their store, even though here in New Zealand allot of this has not happened here but has been heavily implemented here you are a franchise of one of the top most evil corporations on this earth, what about all the little children who fall in love with everything about your franchise and nags and screams and throws tantrums at their parents to go to your stores you rely on this “nag factor” heavily and its sick, your over sized signs and the bright colours that fixate your subliminal sense of self it really is twisted Simon.
What happens when these children get older and go out on their own and eat this stuff daily (I know a few who have and they look like walking death, they are always half asleep and can’t focus well) they get sick and nutrient deficient, they gain weight and become obese, you serve drinks which contain some extremely toxic ingredients particularly the sugar free drinks you CAN NOT deny that aspartame is an excitotoxin and destroys brain neurons that is fact
this stuff also causes cancer, birth defects as well as behavioural problems in children add ADHD etc
How about corn syrup how many of your items contain this ingredient ??
This stuff causes cancer and birth defects and sterility as well as behavioural problems in children add ADHD etc
The thing is also that you eat this stuff you think it’s okay you believe it’s a nice place because that’s how conditioned and brainwashed you are you don’t associate your deteriorating health nor do doctors really ask about diet they merely put you on heart pills and blood pressure pills until your body gives up and you are in an early grave but instead apparently “we’re lovin it” and it is killing us there is a documentary if you have not heard of it it’s called “super size me” and it follows a guy who eats McDonald’s and is followed by health professionals who state VERY CLEARLY that if he had of kept this up he would of DIED yes death from your food if you can’t see this then there are bigger problems than I first thought, I knew it would be hard to get through to you but I didn’t think you would be this blind to the reality of this world and you’re right in the heart of the beast (in a non religious sense)
I appreciate your time and I apologise that I am not coming across as being very easy to deal with the fact of the matter is your killing people indirectly and I am not going to take it
I hope you have a most pleasant evening and a lovely night
Seeing as how I have been ignored again this morning I decided again to let him know I am not going to forget and leave it like he is hoping I will
Message sent seconds ago read
Don’t go thinking that as each day passes I will forget and let things slide back under the matt
Just because you do not reply to my mail in the morning does not mean it is going away nor am I going to leave you alone
I know you will of dealt with many hard complaints in the past and appeazed the sheeple with your propaganda but have you ever been to war ?
I see right through your smokescreens and propaganda messages and this is not going to end untill McDonalds is dead or you have come clean on your toxic food and wrong doings all over the globe, I don’t care that NZ McDonalds has not sed pink slime it is the same damn company wake the hell up Simon
- It seems that he was emailing me at the same time =pHi – as per my earlier email, you are referring to a number of things that have no relevance to McDonald’s in New Zealand. You can see a full breakdown of ingredients on our website. Allergy NZ endorses McDonald’s as one of the best places for people with allergies to eat out, because of the detail of ingredients we make public. We advocate a balanced diet and healthy lifestyle – you refer to Supersize Me – many health professionals would argue that eating large quantities of any food is not healthy. Again I would note that the McDonald’s menu in New Zealand over the last decade has adapted with our customers, and now includes a wide variety of products, including Weight Watchers approved meals.You clearly have strong beliefs with regards to McDonald’s – and as I have said, we respect your right to believe whatever you want. We won’t be unblocking your access to our Facebook page as you have breached our terms, and we won’t be able to give you full access, all expenses paid, to our suppliers and restaurants.Regards,Simon
Good – timing, I have just sent you an email. As you can see I have given you considerable time and listened to your concerns. We won’t be able to agree on things. I wish you well for the future.
Thanks for your reply Simon,
You said all the ingredients are on the website I can not see any ingredients anywhere I can see a page which says where you buy your products from but no ingredients your full of s**t
Allergies have nothing to do with toxic material wake up Simon
McDonalds is not a good choice of food
You said Dr’s don’t recomened eating the same thing every day how come when I ate only two meals (home made organic pumpkin soup and an organic lentil curry) for three years when I was having financial troubles, I had a medical check up and was healthier than I had ever been in my life yet a month of eating McDonalds takes you close to an early grave your so full of it Simon and you have said you are not going to let me back on your group I will remind you that you now only have a week left to change your mind before I destroy you. I will be outside your stores day after day up and down the island every day loud speaker in hand and projected images of your cruelty and suffering caused from your absolutley disgusting, discrasfull and horrific corporation
Take heed of my words Simon I am not jaoking with you here
And like I said before I see right through your bulls*** propaganda spin doctored biasedly sponsored research
Of course weight watches love you, you make their customers…….
Weight watches is a scam in itself anyways can you really not see this you are blind and stupid Simon I am sorry I had to say that and be so hurtfull but that is the fact of the matter,
I am guessing you are also the type that voted for john key, had all his vacinations, eats toxic food daily and only has a few braincells left and all you can do is spin the propaganda you have been brainwashed by and believe it as fact if you can not see this and you can not wake up you really are doomed and well on your way to an early grave
Peace, Love & Light my friend
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Annon Amis I found a list to all ingredients to find that they do add msg, fillers and improvers “salts” who knows what kind of toxins they hide under this name, and all those numbers time to start looking them up in my food code book.
Here is the page for the ingredients
I replyed to Simon the now exposed lier who had told me several times that they don’t have these things in their food
I found your ingredients lists and yes you do use corn syrip, MSG and bread conditioner’s you lied to me Simon several times ……..
All these “salts” added are forms of msg and other toxins you are a lier and I have saved all your messages and your lies to doccument and read out over the loud speaker out front of your stores
News pieces on corn syrip and links to diabetes, heart disease and even warning in particular about teenagers and children eating this IT CAUSES EARLY DEATH this is what I have been saying to you all allong Simon and you continued to lie to me this is poor Simon, I had already given you legal notice and you still lied to me
Get ready for war
But most importantly the effects on teenagers READ IT!!!
You are a lier Simon and you have been snapped well and truly and all of this is backed up and saved so everyone can see McDonalds lie directly to complaints and remember you only have 7 days left till action
I am not ending this mail on a kind note because you lied to me directly and many times you are a disgrase of a human and you are support the death and destruction of our children, our families, our friends, animals, trees and the entire planet, you are scum Simon I talked to you person to person up untill now after you lied and lied and lied your scum and you got it coming your way GET READY ! ! ! !
Hi (it really is unfortunate that you don’t want to give me your name) – I have treated you with respect, listened to your comments, and at no point have a I lied to you. You have now made some disparaging personal comments and comments that could be perceived as direct threats to me. I don’t respond to threats, and will not be engaging with you anymore.
I never threatened you Simon, You did lie several times you said these things are not in your food several times and you also said that lots of these things do not apply here, I looked and there it is plain and clear and the evidence that corn syrip is killing people is very recognized as is the fact that msg and aspartame destroy your brain and cause cancer you can not dispute this nor can you dispute the fact that it is in your food so we can deduct from this that you are supporting the killing of thousands thats why this is getting more personal now My statements of challenge are directed at McDonald’s, not to you as a person and by war I do not mean a bloody battle but more a war of witts and words and a matter of legalities and murderous corporations killing hundreds worldwide, but yes I am very disapointed with you at the same time Simon. Why do you want to know my name so much ? I am happy for you to call me anon that makes no difference to either of us the only reason you would want or need these details is if you are wanting to report this conversation, I don’t care if you report this conversation I have not at any point in this said anything wrong I gave you notice, I said I wanted you to talk with me publicly which you refused so I offered to express my right to free speech around your stores this is the only type of war against McDonald’s I have refered to. A far lesser threat than selling deadly food to people and their families killing children that are brainwashed to think this food is safe and healthy and promoted by weight watchers If it really matters to you that much my name is dave, nice to meet you person to person Simon.
Hypothetically speaking Simon how would you feel if you were to find out that someone was slowly killing almost everyone you know ? your friends, your family, your children and your loved ones ??? would you not do something about it ?? I a…m sorry that you are feeling threatened by me you really don’t need to feel like this I have no plan of doing anything wrong, harmfull or illegal I am only going to make sure that everyone knows you at McDonalds are killing them all and I will stop at nothing till this has been heard by everyone Kind regards dave
Even though you are ignoring me my notice of action still stands and your refusal to communicate only worsens things Peace, Love & Light dave